tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post2295439401189088694..comments2024-03-28T09:13:07.455+00:00Comments on MOODY WRITING: Inside A Story, Lots Of Little Storiesmooderinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-20149922154469353002012-01-05T18:04:17.230+00:002012-01-05T18:04:17.230+00:00@Melissa-I think most panstsers end up with a deta...@Melissa-I think most panstsers end up with a detailed outline after their first draft, but for some it's th eonly way to get their creative juices going. It is much quicker the other way.<br /><br />@nutschell-i think it's better to keep going and fix things later, than get stuck in one place. And happy new year to you too.<br /><br />@Mark-Hello. A comlex, interesting idea doesn't necessarily have to be convoluted and rambling (like life). Simple is good, simplistic, not so much.<br /><br />@Golden-yes, and then also intertwining so they play off each other. Like refrains in music.<br /><br />@Stina-glad you liked it. <br /><br />@lydia-agreed. I hope to demostrate it better using The Hunger Games on Thursday.<br /><br />@Julie-you're welcome.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-80690845082764634572012-01-05T16:18:54.602+00:002012-01-05T16:18:54.602+00:00This is exactly what I needed to hear this morning...This is exactly what I needed to hear this morning as I sit down to major revisions for my editor. Thanks!!Julie Daineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350205936357263571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-6642441297719343642012-01-05T14:38:31.947+00:002012-01-05T14:38:31.947+00:00THat kind of subtext is hard to do, but when done ...THat kind of subtext is hard to do, but when done well, is a joy to read.Lydia Kanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00484415427764822386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-2666917423563847872012-01-05T00:41:11.131+00:002012-01-05T00:41:11.131+00:00This is a brilliant post. Even though I plot befor...This is a brilliant post. Even though I plot before I write my first draft, I still go back and add those details that I hadn't thought of before.Stinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415189347501942340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-30227872751636494092012-01-04T23:54:44.759+00:002012-01-04T23:54:44.759+00:00Interesting idea, considering them all as mini-sto...Interesting idea, considering them all as mini-stories. I suppose that would relate to the idea of each chapter standing on its own and having structure; only on an even smaller scale.Golden Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08721520451194318436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-71023068315509100722012-01-04T18:21:14.303+00:002012-01-04T18:21:14.303+00:00Great question to post. I find that real life is p...Great question to post. I find that real life is pretty complicated, but that can translate to confusion on the written page. So I try to keep things simple (at least at first). Neat blog:)Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793077012143289985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-56391925482805980712012-01-03T23:59:10.106+00:002012-01-03T23:59:10.106+00:00These are great tips for making our stories more i...These are great tips for making our stories more interesting. God knows I need it! Sometimes in order to fulfill my designated word count for the day I just continue to write chapters even if my mind isn't exactly having a creative streak. So my chapters turn out to be excruciatingly boring. These are certainly techniques I'll try to use to spice them up in my rewrite.<br /><br />By the way, a very Happy new year to yoU!<br /><br />Nutschell<br />www.thewritingnut.comnutschellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10967710710805174781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-31388140669082921592012-01-03T21:21:46.741+00:002012-01-03T21:21:46.741+00:00This is a very informative article. I loved the ex...This is a very informative article. I loved the examples given. I learn best by example. I always considered myself a panster and I was until I started working with plot consultant, Martha Alderson (awesome lady). I now see that my first draft, while I would not call it "draft zero" accomplished the same thing for my writing as a detailed outline. The biggest difference is that the draft took much longer to write. I am plotting my second book on a huge plot diagram that follows my outline and I have accomplished more in one month than I did in nearly a year with a first draft.<br /><br />Happy New Year and thanks of sharing. I will definitely be back on Thursday to learn more.Melissa Sugarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16268333458796847721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-64075693990025548842012-01-03T08:41:26.219+00:002012-01-03T08:41:26.219+00:00@JL-I agree, but then that's true of all aspec...@JL-I agree, but then that's true of all aspects of writing.<br /><br />@Heather-I think anyone who has a story to tell can find twists and turns popping into their heads. Which is great. It's those times when that doesn't happen that a little craft comes in useful.<br /><br />@Julie-has to be a very small ladder.<br /><br /><br />@Donna-the plotter's outline and the pantser's initial draft can serve similar roles, but the outline doesn't take as much time to create. The outline would be the plotter's draft zero. Of course, there are times when a pantser can come up with gold first time out, as Heather can attest to.<br /><br />@LD-you're very welcome.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-81592230981063947342012-01-03T05:24:57.604+00:002012-01-03T05:24:57.604+00:00Another of your posts I'm adding to my save fo...Another of your posts I'm adding to my save folder. Thanks.LD Mastersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01202135756299574972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-79918128316355018862012-01-03T04:10:58.763+00:002012-01-03T04:10:58.763+00:00I am a panster, and I don't consider my first ...I am a panster, and I don't consider my first draft "draft zero". Yes, I have to go back at times and re-write or even write in details. And sometimes those detail change what happens a few scenes or a few chapters later.<br /><br />But I don't consider that any different than a plotter who outlines the entire novel, then returns to "fill in" all the details.<br /><br />Since I write scene by scene towards an overall plot concept, I don't feel I'm wasting any writing or planning time by going back and filling in a few extra details here and there. I actually enjoy the editing process though. I feel thats where my actual writing starts, and all "plotting" phase has ended.<br /><br />I know what you're saying about keeping the reader's interest while getting to the major event. I think both plotters and pansters get there diffently, but in the end, the necessary story building is accomplished.<br /><br />If not, then as you say, the book is very boring with a few exciting scenes :)<br /><br />.........dholedolorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08715849844092553699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-969017300789338612012-01-03T02:52:16.927+00:002012-01-03T02:52:16.927+00:00I'm still trying to figure out how to fit a la...I'm still trying to figure out how to fit a ladder in my tights. Great post.julie feddersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06621537183935460781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-9635965490150626162012-01-03T01:28:23.946+00:002012-01-03T01:28:23.946+00:00I have to say, I am a pantser and I could not beli...I have to say, I am a pantser and I could not believe the twists and turns and setups for later reward I worked into my NaNo novel! I freaked myself out as it was flying out of my brain to my fingers and onto the screen, so I would argue that pantsers are capable of the set up for later reward you speak of. That's just me, so maybe I'm not the norm? My husbands been telling me I'm one of a kind for 15 years! ;)Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00163850266884874892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-77892374224816239812012-01-03T00:50:24.839+00:002012-01-03T00:50:24.839+00:00It's a challenge all right, but good sense and...It's a challenge all right, but good sense and experience will help the writer decide what to keep and what will bore the reader to sleep.J.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-65640582807985043492012-01-02T23:12:00.447+00:002012-01-02T23:12:00.447+00:00@Alex-and simple scenes into complicated steps.
@...@Alex-and simple scenes into complicated steps.<br /><br />@Madeline-glad to be of service.<br /><br />@angela-you're welcome.<br /><br />@clarissa-I think any kind of scene can be made to work, even info dumping. i don't think of it as the right way to tell a story, I think of it as the best way to tell your story.<br /><br />@shauna-true, but how you write should come from choice, not necessity. If you don't have the ability to write any other way, chances are your writing style won't be enough to disguise that fact.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-72545829205616444212012-01-02T22:25:54.395+00:002012-01-02T22:25:54.395+00:00Sometimes writing style has to carry you through. ...Sometimes writing style has to carry you through. With the right tone, descriptions, and control, you can keep something at least engaging if not interesting through the mundane.ShaunaKelleyWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04654367734305011629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-28460831893062711172012-01-02T21:26:45.805+00:002012-01-02T21:26:45.805+00:00Sadly, not everything in my story is interesting t...Sadly, not everything in my story is interesting to me. However, if it's not interesting to me, it's not going to be for my reader. But, sometimes those parts are needed in my novel. That's why I like your thoughts on adding other stuff to the scene to make it interesting or to add tension. Thanks for this post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160669603997465454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-84528424937076114192012-01-02T21:02:55.360+00:002012-01-02T21:02:55.360+00:00Great post mooderino! I'm a pantser and I defi...Great post mooderino! I'm a pantser and I definitely have to go back and massage scenes and make sure I have a hook for each scene and micro tension and nuanced layers... This has helped me look at it in another way, thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-59679178581494422102012-01-02T20:53:32.417+00:002012-01-02T20:53:32.417+00:00The idea of thinking of the scene as a piece of mi...The idea of thinking of the scene as a piece of micro-fiction is excellent! Especially for someone like me, who writes a lot of flash/hint/twitter stories.Madeline Mora-Summontehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05529397293165046430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-31148065366520809372012-01-02T19:47:37.335+00:002012-01-02T19:47:37.335+00:00Complicated scene into simple steps - check!Complicated scene into simple steps - check!Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-11976945243778743832012-01-02T19:24:49.492+00:002012-01-02T19:24:49.492+00:00@Stephen-yep, but the way you do it can still be f...@Stephen-yep, but the way you do it can still be fun adn angaging for the reader.<br /><br />@Michael-took me ages to build, very hard finding that many yellow lego bricks.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-84150847477981635352012-01-02T19:19:35.871+00:002012-01-02T19:19:35.871+00:00That is the creepiest picture. A guy pulling apart...That is the creepiest picture. A guy pulling apart his chest and letting his innards spill out.<br /><br />Wow.Michael Offutt, Phantom Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557969104886174930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-18733956970226047642012-01-02T19:14:22.712+00:002012-01-02T19:14:22.712+00:00You have to let the reader stop and catch their br...You have to let the reader stop and catch their breath from time to time. So character development is a good way to accomplish this without wasting the reader's time with fluff and data dump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com