tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post768999233698631037..comments2024-03-28T12:40:14.627+00:00Comments on MOODY WRITING: Bad Advice For Writersmooderinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-73049291707312898462018-11-26T03:33:27.346+00:002018-11-26T03:33:27.346+00:00I never heard about your blog publishing. Very int...I never heard about your blog publishing. Very interesting reading. I have never read any of your post before ,but I'm sure that will change my mind about the good piece of blog writing like you. <a href="http://www.copychecker.net/paper-originality-check/" rel="nofollow">see this</a> and this page is really reliable for any kind of writing service on the response side. <br />Joseph T. 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All of the writing advice I find teaches to...Funny. All of the writing advice I find teaches to do the exact opposite of what I find in published books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-34870402075845838702012-04-02T01:41:30.122+01:002012-04-02T01:41:30.122+01:00Good stuff. All of which can be used in perfectin...Good stuff. All of which can be used in perfecting my craft.shainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875282455357243553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-66150043835114218502012-03-26T20:02:45.906+01:002012-03-26T20:02:45.906+01:00@McKenzie-good practice for trying to get people t...@McKenzie-good practice for trying to get people to understand what you mean.<br /><br />@Lorena-I think most times when people think there's something wrong their instincts are right. It's when they offer what to do about it that things get messy.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-58389442588152414612012-03-26T06:21:27.421+01:002012-03-26T06:21:27.421+01:00You've mentioned a very important point that w...You've mentioned a very important point that we often forget when critiquing someone else's work: "What is the writer's intention and where is the story going?" We often make assumptions and give the writer what you call "generic dogma" (I've seen agents/editors do the same). You're so right about this! This is why I think critiquing an entire novel is more effective than critiquing three or so chapters at a time. Just like writers become better with practice and experience, we also need to learn and evolve in our critiquing with time and avoid simply reciting what we read in books. ("Show don't tell" and the like). I think in order to really help a fellow writer, we need to be open to the possibility that their 'broken rules' might be working.Lorenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848249911635132594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-81936382653575597382012-03-25T16:31:59.493+01:002012-03-25T16:31:59.493+01:00I think the best step from amateur to writer is le...I think the best step from amateur to writer is learning the writer's language. In my creative writing class, I often try to give advice like, "sentence x disrupts your voice because character L is blah blah blah, not blah blah blah."<br /><br />And they look at me like I have six heads.McKenzie McCannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11707799179783394809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-6814357811704231822012-03-24T22:02:11.018+00:002012-03-24T22:02:11.018+00:00@Alexis-use every part of the animal, that's m...@Alexis-use every part of the animal, that's my motto (no one else uses it, do they?)<br /><br />@Lydia-at some point you will know all the basics, but the story will still need something more.<br /><br />@Sue-all stupid examples made up on the spot.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-89958941885764716742012-03-24T20:31:35.164+00:002012-03-24T20:31:35.164+00:00Yes. There's the generic "show don't ...Yes. There's the generic "show don't tell" and generally that's fair enough. When, however, it leads to "she ran a hand through her long blonde hair" it can be tiresome. Sometimes two lines of tell can be enough rather than spend six pages showing. "tying back her long blonde hair she got on her motorbike and charged the aliens down."<br />Your bit about the breakfast scene is so detailed I suspect it may be something you have actually done and had critiqued. ;-) I'm actually reading a story by Lois McMaster Bujold that begins with exactly such a breakfast scene, very funny too, and she has a reason for it and I trust her.Sue Bursztynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09362273418897882971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-11515544440373454972012-03-24T18:34:58.989+00:002012-03-24T18:34:58.989+00:00Great post. It's so true that the basic rules ...Great post. It's so true that the basic rules can be really useful, but they do not guarantee a readable book.Lydia Kanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00484415427764822386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-38968590948805159952012-03-24T18:22:06.555+00:002012-03-24T18:22:06.555+00:00This is a great post. Critique partners are critic...This is a great post. Critique partners are critical. It's probably the most frustrating thing EVER when someone thinks your scene is about something that it's not. But, you are so right - that's when the advice is most helpful.Alexis Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635465457833459349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-30211148427132371022012-03-24T00:19:56.220+00:002012-03-24T00:19:56.220+00:00@jason-nice to know someone gets the point I'm...@jason-nice to know someone gets the point I'm trying to make, even if i make it in a rambling, incoherent mess.<br /><br />@Alex-I think all readers can help, and all can have off days.<br /><br />@AA-sounds like you've got some excellent helpers.<br /><br />@JL-I think that is a danger, to go along with advice because it sounds convincing.<br /><br />@Christa-here at Mooderino University we only employ original thinkers. Mainly drunks and hobos.<br /><br />@Julie-it's easy to get carried away though, to be thinking you're helping by rewriting the opening chapter for a person you've never even met. Hubris, hard to recognise, delicious on toast (wait, I may be thinking of halva).mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-523907176987549362012-03-23T19:47:59.735+00:002012-03-23T19:47:59.735+00:00I think this is awesome. One of the best pieces of...I think this is awesome. One of the best pieces of advice I ever got was: when critiquing other people's writing, don't prescribe. <br /><br />Tell them what's working and why, what's not working and why, but don't tell them what to write. Only the author knows exactly what they are going for. If it takes them 20 tries to get it there, then so be it. That's how it goes in this business.Julie Daineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08350205936357263571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-82857184389581035642012-03-23T18:59:58.690+00:002012-03-23T18:59:58.690+00:00I really like this. There is lots of generic advic...I really like this. There is lots of generic advice out there and it is helpful in getting your foot in the door, but a lot of it can be chucked once you start to really dig in. I've read supposed "bad" first lines in great books. <br />Also, you are right to suggest that it is more individual and you need to really "listen" to what people are criticizing bc it isn't as simple as what it seems. <br /><br />You're so helpful with these writing blogs. This is why I've stopped doing them and gone more personal. There are too many people with way better advice than I. :)Christa Desirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614441465633549710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-91487430152846676652012-03-23T17:55:23.222+00:002012-03-23T17:55:23.222+00:00Pity new writers don't know all of this stuff ...Pity new writers don't know all of this stuff before switching things up to suit people who don't have a clue what the writer intends. Makes sense as a writer to take advice with a grain of salt.J.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-988680152468625582012-03-23T15:59:31.871+00:002012-03-23T15:59:31.871+00:00Every now and then I run into a critique partner w...Every now and then I run into a critique partner who asks, before even reading the piece, what my intent is? I love that because usually it means I'm about to get a pretty useful critique. It all sort of relates to the difference between an alpha reader and beta reader. The best critique partners know how to do both.A.A. Leilhttp://www.aaleil.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-19991992689649888112012-03-23T15:31:01.972+00:002012-03-23T15:31:01.972+00:00That's why I think critique partners who under...That's why I think critique partners who understand your style really help. They have a better grasp on what you're trying to do and can offer more specific suggestions. (All three of my critique partners had read my first book, so they knew my style and the main character well.)Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-254423439862419702012-03-23T12:50:57.581+00:002012-03-23T12:50:57.581+00:00Your point about intent is great! Some of the best...Your point about intent is great! Some of the best advice I have ever heard was actually from a Romance writer I met at a conference.<br /><br />Cherry Adair coined this acronym, WITFPOTS. What Is The F**ng Point Of This Scene?<br /><br />As a writer, if I know the intent of each and every scene, then I can better take critique advice -- good or bad -- and evaluate how effective my scene happens to be.<br /><br />Great post!Jason Runnelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16656622649601360477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-43645183591979387452012-03-23T12:36:07.939+00:002012-03-23T12:36:07.939+00:00@L-i think that's true, but ultimately you can...@L-i think that's true, but ultimately you can't rely on critters to tell you exactly what you should do. It's up to the writer to make the decision about what to change.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-20167048423865057582012-03-23T12:33:07.046+00:002012-03-23T12:33:07.046+00:00@Garry G-well - I wouldn't say just as much, b...@Garry G-well - I wouldn't say just as much, but yes, not all bad.<br /><br />@KD-I think you can't avoid occasionally annoying someone, c'est la vie.<br /><br />@Botanist-I think when you ask random people to comment on your writing you have to be open to all sorts of critiques, sometimes a painful process.<br /><br />@Maria-definitely works both ways.mooderinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01523337588830695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1061937348591302555.post-12992481167199056422012-03-23T11:43:49.746+00:002012-03-23T11:43:49.746+00:00I think you've hit a nail on the head -- after...I think you've hit a nail on the head -- after a certain point, there isn't a right way to tell a story or a wrong way. There's only whether it works or not. <br /><br />And you won't know if it works or not until you write it, clean it up, and show it to critters. <br /><br />Hopefully, your critters know the difference between "This doesn't work" and "This isn't my kind of thing"...blankenship.louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541461775158369620noreply@blogger.com